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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by Frankshaft » Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:54 pm

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I live about 3 miles from an airport and anyone with a credit card can go buy fuel there. The 100 octane AV is $1.72 per litre. Pump premium is about $1.50 per litre. I'm told that the AV is much more reliably rated and lasts longer. I've allready been using it for a couple months, i'll be real happy if it works with 12.9 CR. Thanks for following Steve.
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Av gas is very high quality fuel. It will easily support your compression. And no it is not a "dry" fuel. It has lead in it, whatever dry means. lol. It will work great in your combo. It usually has a high .6 specific gravity, so you may need to jet it up a size or 2. Will have to experiment. I know for a fact it will work with 13:1 on an iron headed bbc. In one test I did with it, it made about 6-7 more hp than 110 octane Sunoco.

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by midnightbluS10 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:45 am

Avgas actually is a dry fuel, from everything I've read. Has nothing to do with whether it has lead in it or not.

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by Frankshaft » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:12 am

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Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:45 am
Avgas actually is a dry fuel, from everything I've read. Has nothing to do with whether it has lead in it or not.
lol, I knew it was coming. Explain to me what makes it dry? Dry how? And being dry, what does it do or don't do? Just curious,, enlighten us please.

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by randy331 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:38 am

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Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:45 am
Avgas actually is a dry fuel, from everything I've read. Has nothing to do with whether it has lead in it or not.
And the moon is made of cheese !!!!

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by randy331 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:43 am

Frankshaft wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:12 am
midnightbluS10 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:45 am
Avgas actually is a dry fuel, from everything I've read. Has nothing to do with whether it has lead in it or not.
lol, I knew it was coming. Explain to me what makes it dry? Dry how? And being dry, what does it do or don't do? Just curious,, enlighten us please.
Funny all the myths out there that won't die.
AV gas is a great fuel for lots of applications, and a bargain vs race gas.
AV gas is $4,30 a gallon here, vs the $ 18.00 a gallon we pay for the Q16 for our pulling truck.

Is Q16 dry ? LOL Maybe I should add some oil to it ? Or maybe water ? Water would make it wet wouldn't it ? LOL

:lol:

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by Frankshaft » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:58 am

randy331 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:43 am
Frankshaft wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:12 am
midnightbluS10 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:45 am
Avgas actually is a dry fuel, from everything I've read. Has nothing to do with whether it has lead in it or not.
lol, I knew it was coming. Explain to me what makes it dry? Dry how? And being dry, what does it do or don't do? Just curious,, enlighten us please.
Funny all the myths out there that won't die.
AV gas is a great fuel for lots of applications, and a bargain vs race gas.
AV gas is $4,30 a gallon here, vs the $ 18.00 a gallon we pay for the Q16 for our pulling truck.

Is Q16 dry ? LOL Maybe I should add some oil to it ? Or maybe water ? Water would make it wet wouldn't it ? LOL

:lol:

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I think you might need to find a new source for Q. You buying it in 55 drums? Or 5 gallon cans? We actually do add some upper cylinder lube into Q. That stuff is nasty. DO NOT directly smell the jug. Waft it into your nose. A buddy of mine had 3, 5 gallon gas jugs in his garage, smelling them to see which one was the gas for his lawn mower. The Q had been in one for probably a year. Whatever chemical that is in it, separated or whatever, he took a big whiff, and he said, it damn near took him off his feet, he was dizzy and light headed instantly, and then his nose started bleeding, and it didn't stop bleeding for over 2 hours. He almost went to the emergency room. To this day, he gets bloody noses really easy. He said it damaged something in his nasal passage for sure.

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by Frankshaft » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:00 am

randy331 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:38 am
midnightbluS10 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:45 am
Avgas actually is a dry fuel, from everything I've read. Has nothing to do with whether it has lead in it or not.
And the moon is made of cheese !!!!

Randy
It could be made from cheese. How do you know its not? You ever been there? It sure looks like swiss cheese to me.

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by CGT » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:02 am

Av gas is an absolute bargain. Is it perfect for every scenario? no. But its consistent, is more detonation resistant than what its octane would suggest, leaves very little deposits on parts(pistons, valves etc)…..and can work good on a lot of stuff. I've been hearing crap about it forever, high altitude fuel etc bla bla bla, now its too dry?
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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by randy331 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:28 am

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I think you might need to find a new source for Q. You buying it in 55 drums? Or 5 gallon cans? We actually do add some upper cylinder lube into Q. That stuff is nasty. DO NOT directly smell the jug. Waft it into your nose. A buddy of mine had 3, 5 gallon gas jugs in his garage, smelling them to see which one was the gas for his lawn mower. The Q had been in one for probably a year. Whatever chemical that is in it, separated or whatever, he took a big whiff, and he said, it damn near took him off his feet, he was dizzy and light headed instantly, and then his nose started bleeding, and it didn't stop bleeding for over 2 hours. He almost went to the emergency room. To this day, he gets bloody noses really easy. He said it damaged something in his nasal passage for sure.
We are buying it in sealded 5 gal jugs. We don't burn enough to buy 55s. I know I ain't gettin a bargain on it. I switch it to Q just before the pull, then switch it back to vp blue for loading/un loading and putting it back in the shop etc.

And I know the stuff is nasty. I been changin oil more often with it. The inside of the engine smells bad. Just pullin the valve covers smells.

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by randy331 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:29 am

Frankshaft wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:00 am
randy331 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:38 am
midnightbluS10 wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 6:45 am
Avgas actually is a dry fuel, from everything I've read. Has nothing to do with whether it has lead in it or not.
And the moon is made of cheese !!!!

Randy
It could be made from cheese. How do you know its not? You ever been there? It sure looks like swiss cheese to me.
I guess mercury is made of grilled cheese then ?

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by CGT » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:36 am

Macaroni and cheese, but you have to put "more bowl" in it to eat it.

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by prairiehotrodder » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:59 am

With the current 10-1 CR, when i switched to AV gas i added another degree of timing and went a little quicker. Also i've noticed that the spark plugs are colored grey instead of brown or black. I also have my carbs richened up to 82/92 (out of the box was 80/90) and i think it may even want to be richer yet.

I think with my carbs on that tunnel ram way up in the air (high altitude) that is why the av gas works so good !!!

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by CGT » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:06 am

prairiehotrodder wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:59 am
With the current 10-1 CR, when i switched to AV gas i added another degree of timing and went a little quicker. Also i've noticed that the spark plugs are colored grey instead of brown or black. I also have my carbs richened up to 82/92 (out of the box was 80/90) and i think it may even want to be richer yet.

I think with my carbs on that tunnel ram way up in the air (high altitude) that is why the av gas works so good !!!

Brian
Pump gas to AV gas should require reducing jet size, assuming your pump gas contains ethanol. The difference between AV and pump on one engine I dynoed on a Braswell carb, was 2 to 4 jet sizes on each end for best power.

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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by Steve.k » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:12 am

Av gas does contain different inhibitors and products to reduce icing at high altitude and the cold temps associated up there. It may or may not work for your application. Its not the same as racefuel by any means. It does work for certain high compression engines but by no means is it the best choice. Up here you also need a valid pilots license to purchase or have a buddy with one. Most of the savings here is due to tax.http://www.fuelexpert.co.za/canirunavgas.php http://www.whitfieldoil.com/171.287/racing-gasoline. http://www.dragracingpinoy.com/articles ... racing-gas Do some reading and decide.
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Re: tunnel ram results

Post by Frankshaft » Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:36 am

Steve.k wrote:
Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:12 am
Av gas does contain different inhibitors and products to reduce icing at high altitude and the cold temps associated up there. It may or may not work for your application. Its not the same as racefuel by any means. It does work for certain high compression engines but by no means is it the best choice. Up here you also need a valid pilots license to purchase or have a buddy with one. Most of the savings here is due to tax.
Koch Refinery here.in Minnesota, about 15 years ago, wanted to produce the best 110 octane race fuel. They contracted the Dyno shop I used then, he has since retired, to do their fuel study's on. They had him come up with an engine of sufficient power, compression and cubic inch to test the fuel on. Relying on some of his expierties to come up with. I was involved with the engine build. It was an 820 hp 496 that was about 13.5:1. They would come up with a blend, and did testing against the other popular 110 octane race fuels at the time, until theirs made the most power. It was Power 110 they called. I believe it's what Sunoco sells now as their 110 octane. They bought the formula and rights from Koch when they stopped making it. Because it was better, no doubt. The base fuel used? 100ll aviation fuel, they added their chemical coctail too.

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