Best IC engine books ??

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Re: Best IC engine books ??

Post by Morgo » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:45 pm

Almost anything by David Vizard;both tecnical and entertaining.
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Post by Erland Cox » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:57 pm

This book was written by one of the most gifted and intelligent race engine builders.
I have had copies of almost since it was new.
You can read it hundreds of times and every time you learn something new.
Filled with facts and ideas and not fiction.
There is nothing else even as close as 100 miles to it.
Which is sad, why are there not more books like this?

http://ceb.ac.in/knowledge-center/E-BOO ... enkins.pdf

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Post by hoodeng » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:58 pm

There are some great suggestions so far , my additions to the mix come from a number of perspectives ,here goes.

'Automotive engine design', by Crouse , similar but not the same as Heywood.

'Bosch automotive hand book' , Bosch , a lot of general automotive tech.

'Engine failure analysis', by Greuter and Zima , this book will suck you in and not let you out.

'SAE handbook' ,set of 3 , SAE ,these monsters can be bought reasonably priced. if you want to know why a specific bolt is used to hold a particular part on a production vehicle, these are a guide to why that bolt was specified.

'Race engine technology' , RET , monthly magazine , every copy i have read since its inception has something to raise an eyebrow.

'The romance of engines' by Takashi Suzuki , don't let the title fool you, a historic perspective on engine manufacturing progression.

A nice collection on a shelf to me is a pleasing sight that can be perused at leisure , unfortunately a memory stick by the USB port is becoming more common!

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Re: Best IC engine books ??

Post by Olds455 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:23 pm

Turbo231 wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:22 am
Schurkey wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:30 am
The Rehr-Morrison Engine Assembly Manual is an excellent high-school or trade-school textbook.

https://www.amazon.com/Reher-Morrison-C ... gines+book
Thanks. I may get that one.
At least get if from Reher Morrison. That's some place or person called "textbooks_source" in case you didn't realize it. Not even capitalized. Smh.

RM has it for 74.95 anyway.


http://rehermorrison.com/engine-book/


There's one place selling RM's lower engine assembly book for over $800. Some place called Red Rhino. That's just crazy.


https://www.amazon.com/Reher-Morrison-R ... ms?ie=UTF8

So be sure and pay attention to who you're buying from and what it is you're buying.

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Post by novadude » Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:05 pm

There is some good stuff in Edward Obert "internal combustion engines and air pollution".

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Post by shoedoos » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:19 am

Erland Cox wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:57 pm
This book was written by one of the most gifted and intelligent race engine builders.
I have had copies of almost since it was new.
You can read it hundreds of times and every time you learn something new.
Filled with facts and ideas and not fiction.
There is nothing else even as close as 100 miles to it.
Which is sad, why are there not more books like this?

http://ceb.ac.in/knowledge-center/E-BOO ... enkins.pdf

Erland
Everybody be aware the aforementioned download link of Grumpy's book....is over 52mb......

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Re: Best IC engine books ??

Post by MadBill » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:04 am

The ... Performance Tuning books by A. Graham Bell are also informative.
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Re: Best IC engine books ??

Post by RamblerRebel6 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:25 am

And if you like math also, how about a book dedicated to engine math? I've only read parts of it, but it gives good explanations.

Performance Automotive Engine Math, by John Baechtel.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1934709476/ref=rdr_ext_tmb

I'm buying it, anyway.
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Post by Turbo231 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:20 am

Erland Cox wrote:
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:57 pm
This book was written by one of the most gifted and intelligent race engine builders.
I have had copies of almost since it was new.
You can read it hundreds of times and every time you learn something new.
Filled with facts and ideas and not fiction.
There is nothing else even as close as 100 miles to it.
Which is sad, why are there not more books like this?

http://ceb.ac.in/knowledge-center/E-BOO ... enkins.pdf

Erland
I have Grumpy's book and Smokey Yunick's book. These two "non-engineers" had as much or more understanding of engines than the whole engineering staff at most colleges.

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Re: Best IC engine books ??

Post by Ron E » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:08 am

Bill Jenkins was an engineer. Combined with that his hands-on real world racing experience made a great recipe. Add to that his very rare ability to understand and communicate what he learned. He didn't over-complicate the issues. He could explain most anything in plain English. When something worked but he didn't fully understand it, he said so. (all that from a Dodge guy...)

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Re: Best IC engine books ??

Post by Turbo231 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:43 am

There are two books by Winterbone and Pearson on Engine and Manifold design that I hear people talk about. I have found these but they are about $200 for each. Any comments on these? Why are they so expensive and are they worth it?

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Re: Best IC engine books ??

Post by John Wallace » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:00 pm

These?

Design Techniques for Engine Manifolds: Wave Action Methods for IC Engines

Theory of Engine Manifold Design: Wave Action Methods for IC Engines

They look interesting.

The price is high probably because they are out of print?

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I'd be interested in if anyone has read them also.

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Re: Best IC engine books ??

Post by Erland Cox » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:51 pm

I have them but they were a bit advanced for me.
I will try to find them during the weekend and refresh my memory.

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Post by vannik » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:46 pm

They are not about engines but about developing and using 1D finite difference methods to do a 1D simulation. They are mostly numerical methods and focus on the 2 Step Lax-Wendroff method with flux correction. Not for anyone that wants to understand engines only.

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Post by Turbo231 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:05 pm

vannik wrote:
Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:46 pm
They are not about engines but about developing and using 1D finite difference methods to do a 1D simulation. They are mostly numerical methods and focus on the 2 Step Lax-Wendroff method with flux correction. Not for anyone that wants to understand engines only.
I thought they might have more to do with IC simulation. Have you or anyone you know used them for a simulation program?

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