Piston ring install lube

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by sanfordandson » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:33 pm

Engine oil here. Never an issue.

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by exhaustgases » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:42 pm

sanfordandson wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:33 pm
Engine oil here. Never an issue.
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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by blykins » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:43 pm

X3...

And sparingly too. I don't dunk.
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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by user-30257 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:03 pm

blykins wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:43 pm
X3...

And sparingly too. I don't dunk.
Great, now we will get a novel by our resident guru why we are wrong by not dipping.

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by hoodeng » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:36 pm

Engine oil smeared over ring before installation on the piston then a few drops after installation and spun in groove works for me, and by the sound of a lot of previous posts works for pretty much everyone that does it , some here have been building engines for that long they get to a stage where they see engines they built up to 30+ years ago back in the shop , on strip down they find not much more than a worn but honest engine ,the insight they get is their practices of many years have not compromised the package from get go and have proven their methods satisfactory for a competent build .. We also find things that we have used in the past that were not as good as their manufacturers claimed , for me a couple were a silicon sealant that came out in the 90's that chafed in a case seal ,another was a new design head gasket with a [special] coating that would weep after a couple of years ,and another,a gasket from the OEM that walked out of situ with clockwork precision.

All that said ,we would not be in business now if our previous practices regularly came back and bit us on the arse.

Yet ,,,,, some years back i saw a documentary on AMG and they were showing the engine assembly process, as usual in a hermetically sealed vault ,when it came to piston installation there was the obligatory shinny prepped block and a rack of similarly prepped pistons ,,the guy lines up the ring compressor tool on the block , inverts the piston ,,,,and then dips it into a bucket of oil!!!! that puppy was drowning in oil ,then insert it with a bump .
You don't see an pinned AMG roiling a screen out behind it , do you?

I didn't see the need to put a bucket next to the engine stand then , and probably wont in the future.

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Re: Piston ring install lube

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by pdq67 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:21 am

Warp Speed wrote:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:41 pm
30w oil........
30wt and dipped in a pound coffee can since quart oil cans aren't around and dripping everywhere.

Works fine to me.

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by FC-Pilot » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:21 pm

Thin assembly lube on the rings and a small amount on the skirts. Just enough to have a light layer over the cylinder walls and on the rings. I don't want them dry, but also don't want them to be dripping wet. I want just as much there as I find when I have to pull a head or something.

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by jacksoni » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:41 pm

And along this line, total seal video on quickseat and lubing rings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z66MXpVKc_0

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by mach1charlie » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:33 pm

Speed secret, 2 stroke oil.

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by statsystems » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:03 pm

mach1charlie wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:33 pm
Speed secret, 2 stroke oil.

I've used two stroke oil many times. Works great and don't take much.

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by gnicholson » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:43 pm

Ive heard yak gism and jp-7 at a 2 to 3 ratio works great but i think ill stick with total seal quick seat

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by geraldtson » Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:55 pm

Engine oil cylinders,piston skirts and saturate ring pack and lands. Tried it every other way stated here (not completely dry-WD at least) but wouldn't even consider anything but plenty of motor oil anymore.

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by statsystems » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:29 pm

gnicholson wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 9:43 pm
Ive heard yak gism and jp-7 at a 2 to 3 ratio works great but i think ill stick with total seal quick seat

I'll take your word for it on the yak gism!!!!!!!!

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Re: Piston ring install lube

Post by gnicholson » Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:09 am

Let me tell you; the jp7 is the easier of the 2 to get.

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