Dude, how about you let people with experience say something without your complete BS.groberts101 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 14, 2018 3:13 pmBurn ton's of oil? Lol.. they're probably the same damn ring part numbers your using for the gapped versions. So the gapless design itself caused your oil consumption issues? Maybe you're doing something very wrong if you expect the COMPRESSION ring to control oil?RAMM wrote: ↑Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:42 amThe gapless design is a gimmick pure and simple. They leakdown and dyno test great at first but they all burn ton's of oil. Everytime. I track that closely and even on tear down and refresh the chambers and pistons show signs of excessive oil consumption. Also when I switch to a conventional or AP ring power goes up. Gapless is a scam -Even Jenkins tested this and found the same thing. J.Rob
And unless somethings changed since I last spoke with them.. Total seal just machines them from other off shelf parts to make their gapless design. Same goes for their AP stuff too.. just bought a set of AP maxseals.
And so what if Jenkins didn't like em'? I liked the guy too but I don't gauge every parts choice I ever made or will ever make solely on his experiences. Nobody knows everything about everyhing.. just the way it is because life's just too short to learn it all. In fact.. Kaase, Sherman and many others my brain can't remember right now have said they liked em' plenty good at one time or another for anything but all out full effort race motors.
In a nutshell.. if what you say about oil consumption was even remotely true.. more people would be having issues and that bad news would travel far faster than any good news ever would. Well.. that and I must be one lucky SOB because I've never once found that to be true on more than a dozen sets I've personally installed myself. Not to mention the dozens of others I've never seen blow smoke. Maybe it's time to play the lottery.
Some of us nobody's have experience doing this for 30 plus years at a PROFESSIONAL level. And when we say something and it's debunked by internet trash. Nobody will learn.
As far as a ring with another ring attatched to it, yes that must be lighter than a single ring of similar bore contact patch. Sorry to burst your bubble but a .025 ring will always free up more power than your 1/16 gapless. And if you can't make a ring seal without it being a gapless. Then stop.