Re: Best engine??
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:44 pm
The LS wins pound for pound, but does it win in NA HP?bigblockmopar wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:56 pmI would use a Limited Slip too at Bonneville and Dragstrip racing...
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The LS wins pound for pound, but does it win in NA HP?bigblockmopar wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:56 pmI would use a Limited Slip too at Bonneville and Dragstrip racing...
No, I don't think so. It would win for small block using the most factory parts maybe.
I beat a top fuel car by foot.. sure they were unloading it from the trailer still, but a race is a race.bigblockmopar wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:34 pm I once won over a '74 454ci ElCamino on the strip with my '62 413ci Chrysler NY wagon. Close race but I beat him on reaction.
Also once dusted a '67 350ci Nova with my '62 413ci Chrysler NY wagon. He did have some ignition problems.
Also once put some shame on the owner of a '70/80s Chevy Pickup with a cammed 350ci and a blue bottle with my '62 413ci Chrysler NY wagon. His bottle ran out during the race. No Juice, no Glory.
I barely lost a race once in my '67 cammed 440ci Chrysler Newport from a '70s 350ci Corvette, who needed spray to accomplish that.
I once left a '70 Chevelle in the dust with my '60 496" Chrysler NewYorker sedan.
Simple conclusion;
In my little world, Chrysler engines are way better then Chevy engines... And, Chevy's are usually only fast when they're heavily on drugs!
But ofcourse I might be biased
Just going by some of the criteria of the original post it has a good block, steel crank and a solid lifter cam. The hi riser heads have big inline valves, good ports and chamber and shaft rocker arms. The intake was a dual quad like the hemi with two holleys. You can get the engine with lemans rods and put in a 428 factory crank for 454 cubic inches.Powertrip wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:38 pmI have to admit, don't know a whole lot about the 427 Ford, except we called the side oiler the track oiler.fordified wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:10 pm National Record:
SS/A 8.53 155.58 10/09/16 Ray Paquet - Holt, MI '64 Fairlane
Considering that he's one of a select few who has run that combination I'd say the 427 is the killer.
The hemi's are awesome no question about it but they've had a ton of R&D work done on them and they run on the jagged edge. There have been a lot of cars in that class and the motors are timebombs so my vote is still 427 Ford.
So, let's discuss what makes the 427 Ford better than the 426 Hemi.
What Chevy with a big block would run SS/A? I remember back in highschool, my buddies dad had, still has it, a 1969 mustang fastback, with what he called a better idea, 427 side oiler block, 428 crank and LeMans rods. I think it had medium riser heads on it too. It had 4 ida Weber's on an ir intake. He had a sign for car shows, and he listed the bore and stroke, I calculated the cubic inch, remember, no internet in the late 80's early 90's, so, you had to do some research to figure stuff out like that. Anyhow, he claimed it to be 462 cubic inch. I broke it to him it was in fact, a 454. He was stunned I knew that. He just said, " yes, I know, I can't have a Chevy number on my Ford" Thing was actually a pooch.fordified wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:31 pmJust going by some of the criteria of the original post it has a good block, steel crank and a solid lifter cam. The hi riser heads have big inline valves, good ports and chamber and shaft rocker arms. The intake was a dual quad like the hemi with two holleys. You can get the engine with lemans rods and put in a 428 factory crank for 454 cubic inches.Powertrip wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:38 pmI have to admit, don't know a whole lot about the 427 Ford, except we called the side oiler the track oiler.fordified wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:10 pm National Record:
SS/A 8.53 155.58 10/09/16 Ray Paquet - Holt, MI '64 Fairlane
Considering that he's one of a select few who has run that combination I'd say the 427 is the killer.
The hemi's are awesome no question about it but they've had a ton of R&D work done on them and they run on the jagged edge. There have been a lot of cars in that class and the motors are timebombs so my vote is still 427 Ford.
So, let's discuss what makes the 427 Ford better than the 426 Hemi.
I don't know if I can say its a better engine than the hemi but it has its pluses and makes a ton of power for an over 50 year old design. They won there share of races back in the day.
An L88 Vette. Bad ass car.Frankshaft wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:46 pm
What Chevy with a big block would run SS/A? I remember back in highschool, my buddies dad had, still has it, a 1969 mustang fastback, with what he called a better idea, 427 side oiler block, 428 crank and LeMans rods. I think it had medium riser heads on it too. It had 4 ida Weber's on an ir intake. He had a sign for car shows, and he listed the bore and stroke, I calculated the cubic inch, remember, no internet in the late 80's early 90's, so, you had to do some research to figure stuff out like that. Anyhow, he claimed it to be 462 cubic inch. I broke it to him it was in fact, a 454. He was stunned I knew that. He just said, " yes, I know, I can't have a Chevy number on my Ford" Thing was actually a pooch.
Add another carb and a sheet metal intake to the Corvette. Might change things. But still, no doubt that Ford boogies.fordified wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:21 pmAn L88 Vette. Bad ass car.Frankshaft wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:46 pm
What Chevy with a big block would run SS/A? I remember back in highschool, my buddies dad had, still has it, a 1969 mustang fastback, with what he called a better idea, 427 side oiler block, 428 crank and LeMans rods. I think it had medium riser heads on it too. It had 4 ida Weber's on an ir intake. He had a sign for car shows, and he listed the bore and stroke, I calculated the cubic inch, remember, no internet in the late 80's early 90's, so, you had to do some research to figure stuff out like that. Anyhow, he claimed it to be 462 cubic inch. I broke it to him it was in fact, a 454. He was stunned I knew that. He just said, " yes, I know, I can't have a Chevy number on my Ford" Thing was actually a pooch.
SS/AA 8.67 153.68 05/24/08 John Armstrong - Kingston, NS '69 Chevy
I'm not sure that he needs it. I almost positive that car had been faster since 2008. Armstrongs race an opel in comp that crazy fast with a four banger I think.Frankshaft wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:42 pmAdd another carb and a sheet metal intake to the Corvette. Might change things. But still, no doubt that Ford boogies.fordified wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:21 pmAn L88 Vette. Bad ass car.Frankshaft wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:46 pm
What Chevy with a big block would run SS/A? I remember back in highschool, my buddies dad had, still has it, a 1969 mustang fastback, with what he called a better idea, 427 side oiler block, 428 crank and LeMans rods. I think it had medium riser heads on it too. It had 4 ida Weber's on an ir intake. He had a sign for car shows, and he listed the bore and stroke, I calculated the cubic inch, remember, no internet in the late 80's early 90's, so, you had to do some research to figure stuff out like that. Anyhow, he claimed it to be 462 cubic inch. I broke it to him it was in fact, a 454. He was stunned I knew that. He just said, " yes, I know, I can't have a Chevy number on my Ford" Thing was actually a pooch.
SS/AA 8.67 153.68 05/24/08 John Armstrong - Kingston, NS '69 Chevy