Ring groove spacers
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Re: Ring groove spacers
Talk to Keith or Kevin at Total Seal about their Advantage ring package. I use them exclusively in NHRA Stock Eliminator engines with excellent results.
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Re: Ring groove spacers
Not about being obsolete it's about using what u have at hand and Makin it work better
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Din't mean to suggest you or your build was obsolete, just me and mine. Total Seal is great for the 4" and up bore guys with high budgets, but sometimes some of us need a low ball option and I included that link for us.rocketracer380 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:32 pm Not about being obsolete it's about using what u have at hand and Makin it work better
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Re: Ring groove spacers
Jack... I've been obsolete for decades...PackardV8 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2018 9:22 pmDin't mean to suggest you or your build was obsolete, just me and mine. Total Seal is great for the 4" and up bore guys with high budgets, but sometimes some of us need a low ball option and I included that link for us.rocketracer380 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:32 pm Not about being obsolete it's about using what u have at hand and Makin it work better
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Re: Ring groove spacers
As Alan mentioned, contact Total Seal. This is commonly done on NHRA Stock Eliminator engines where the rules stipulate original ring groove width in pistons. Many of their spacers also have side gas ports, as well. Measure the ring groove depth in the pistons before you call them.rocketracer380 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:49 pmAny one making ring groove spacers so I can run thinner rings on 5/64 pistons
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Re: Ring groove spacers
If you have ever used a total seal gapless top ring, that's what your using too.
Re: Ring groove spacers
Not according to their site: http://www.totalseal.com/pdf/Installati ... 2010_2.pdf
"Do not intermix gapless ring rails with oil ring rails or
try to substitute rails from any other ring set.
Total Seal Gapless® rings and rails are carefully machined
to fit together and are not interchangeable with other Total
Seal rings or with any other rings not from this set."
"Do not intermix gapless ring rails with oil ring rails or
try to substitute rails from any other ring set.
Total Seal Gapless® rings and rails are carefully machined
to fit together and are not interchangeable with other Total
Seal rings or with any other rings not from this set."
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Re: Ring groove spacers
Having used and sold Total Seal Advantage ring sets for over a decade now, I can assure you tht the spacers are NOT oil ring rails, nor will oil ring rails work as well.. And the spacers are not like their gapless top ring. You can combine the spacers with their gapless top ring.
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Re: Ring groove spacers
What I meant, a gapless top ring set is basically a spacer with a much thinner top ring. I wasn't suggesting using pieces and parts to try and adapt to other applications. I was just pointing out that.MadBill wrote: ↑Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:04 pm Not according to their site: http://www.totalseal.com/pdf/Installati ... 2010_2.pdf
"Do not intermix gapless ring rails with oil ring rails or
try to substitute rails from any other ring set.
Total Seal Gapless® rings and rails are carefully machined
to fit together and are not interchangeable with other Total
Seal rings or with any other rings not from this set."
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Re: Ring groove spacers
I found the spacers I needed to fit a 3 3/4" bore Seagrave v-12 @ Wiseco. A user friendly phone call, reasonable, and they got them to me promptly. Years ago they would have been readily available from Perfect Circle. In many places they would have been called GI inserts and were many times used in re-ring jobs to repair top ring groove excessive clearance and to space the top ring down from the ridge in the cylinder caused by the previously used top ring.
Re: Ring groove spacers
For True. I've got a Perfect Circle kit, with the hand-driven tool to square up the worn grooves to accept the spacer rings.enginenut2 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:00 pm I found the spacers I needed to fit a 3 3/4" bore Seagrave v-12 @ Wiseco. A user friendly phone call, reasonable, and they got them to me promptly. Years ago they would have been readily available from Perfect Circle. In many places they would have been called GI inserts and were many times used in re-ring jobs to repair top ring groove excessive clearance and to space the top ring down from the ridge in the cylinder caused by the previously used top ring.
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