sbc assualt/proheader heads stud girdle & stud spacing question
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sbc assualt/proheader heads stud girdle & stud spacing question
i have a set of assault racing/proheader heads for a sbc & i'm trying to figure out if i need a stud girdle. the motor is a 383 with a comp cams xr294hr (Comp hydraulic roller is an XR294HR with 242/248 degrees of duration at 0.050, 0.540/0.562-inch lift with 1.5 rockers, and 110 lobe sep.) & the matching springs Comp 987-16. (Specs: 121 lbs @ 1.8", 343 lbs @ 1.2". (370 lbs/in)). i'm using arp 7/16s studs & scorpion 1.5 roller rockers. i don't plan on turning it over 6,500 rpm unless it just likes it (i doubt it will). do i need a stud girdle?
also, i'm unsure about the rocker stud spacing on these assault heads. i have read one guy say that a standard stud girdle won't fit because they moved the rocker studs .030" further apart. can anyone verify this?
thanks
also, i'm unsure about the rocker stud spacing on these assault heads. i have read one guy say that a standard stud girdle won't fit because they moved the rocker studs .030" further apart. can anyone verify this?
thanks
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Re: sbc assualt/proheader heads stud girdle & stud spacing question
YOU DO NOT NEED A STUD GIRDLE
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I would not put a girdle on it either
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Agree with the both posts above, no girdle necessary.
Thanks, Gary in N.Y.
P.S. Those 987 springs aren't going to get the job done though, would recommend using a set of 914's instead. Not sure about your installed hgt numbers on the valves but you should have 140/150# on the seat with these SB hyd-retro's. Also definitely some L/W tool-steel retainers, no C.M.'s!
Thanks, Gary in N.Y.
P.S. Those 987 springs aren't going to get the job done though, would recommend using a set of 914's instead. Not sure about your installed hgt numbers on the valves but you should have 140/150# on the seat with these SB hyd-retro's. Also definitely some L/W tool-steel retainers, no C.M.'s!
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Re: sbc assualt/proheader heads stud girdle & stud spacing question
these spring won't work? they are what comp cams recommends with the cam i'm using, although i do realize that doesn't mean shit. lol
what did you mean by no C.M.'s?
thank you all for your advise.
what did you mean by no C.M.'s?
thank you all for your advise.
Re: sbc assualt/proheader heads stud girdle & stud spacing question
No plain steel retainers. Lightweight tool steel or titanium I believe is what he meant. I girdle is not needed but what could adding one hurt on a hydraulic engine. Not like it makes valve adjustment a pain. I would think it would stabilize the valvetrain some and possibly act like a valve cover baffle, keep some more oil out of the breather and on the rockers and springs where it would be doing good.
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Re: sbc assualt/proheader heads stud girdle & stud spacing question
I guess it really all depends upon someone's definition of "NEED".
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lmfao, what is your definition of "NEED"?
Re: sbc assualt/proheader heads stud girdle & stud spacing question
IMO the above post of around 150# seat and around 400# over the nose is closer to what you need; and what I use. A good beehive will get you there.
Re: sbc assualt/proheader heads stud girdle & stud spacing question
the cam is on a cast iron core. would more spring pressure hurt it?
Re: sbc assualt/proheader heads stud girdle & stud spacing question
If you find that you need mre spring load for max rpm
try comp 977-16 or crane 96870-16
Shim to around 1.850" - 1.875" ish
to get the seat and open spring load you want.
If the hyd roller lifters are too ticky at idle
use a thicker oil or increase installed spring height a bit
more to decrease load a hair.
Find the happy spot between hyd lifter hyd collapse
and max rpm limit... (valve control)
More than what you need is not better.
try comp 977-16 or crane 96870-16
Shim to around 1.850" - 1.875" ish
to get the seat and open spring load you want.
If the hyd roller lifters are too ticky at idle
use a thicker oil or increase installed spring height a bit
more to decrease load a hair.
Find the happy spot between hyd lifter hyd collapse
and max rpm limit... (valve control)
More than what you need is not better.