2018 Demon article in HR mag.
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2018 Demon article in HR mag.
You guys that know, what would I need to do to be able to take my '67 Camaro with a 400", .030" overbore x 3" stroke = 325" engine to be able to run with onna these? (9's and such times!!!!)....
just with a stick tranny and a posi- live-axle rear end here..
They are talking about 800+ hp/4,000 pound car? so I figure at the least a much stronger aftermarket block. Much less a CGI block and then blow hell outta it! Shit, I figure my car only weight's like 3250 pounds at the most! Stock, stripped, 350SS car, probably 3150 pounds?
Please if you guys in the know would list everything that I would need to do to make my '67 Camaro able to spank onna these new cars??
Go at least an aluminum 588" BBC standard deck height block or what?
Lets just arm-chair this to death!!
I would dearly love to see, "Old School", kick some serious ass here is all..
F** this, "You can only have one if you give us a, "bushel basket full a money and you win the drawing", crap here!!
I figure that no more than a modern, "Resto-Mod", full powered '67 Camaro car should do it IF powered right, or am I missing something?
Please discuss and don't poo-poo this..
Thanks,
pdq67
just with a stick tranny and a posi- live-axle rear end here..
They are talking about 800+ hp/4,000 pound car? so I figure at the least a much stronger aftermarket block. Much less a CGI block and then blow hell outta it! Shit, I figure my car only weight's like 3250 pounds at the most! Stock, stripped, 350SS car, probably 3150 pounds?
Please if you guys in the know would list everything that I would need to do to make my '67 Camaro able to spank onna these new cars??
Go at least an aluminum 588" BBC standard deck height block or what?
Lets just arm-chair this to death!!
I would dearly love to see, "Old School", kick some serious ass here is all..
F** this, "You can only have one if you give us a, "bushel basket full a money and you win the drawing", crap here!!
I figure that no more than a modern, "Resto-Mod", full powered '67 Camaro car should do it IF powered right, or am I missing something?
Please discuss and don't poo-poo this..
Thanks,
pdq67
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All you need is some money and you can beat anything.
The Demon has the ability to launch very hard without really trying so you will need a similar launch setup. That's why their ET's are so low in the first place.
The Demon has the ability to launch very hard without really trying so you will need a similar launch setup. That's why their ET's are so low in the first place.
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Re: 2018 Demon article in HR mag.
You will need close to 700 Hp and a good working suspension to make 3150lbs run 9.60's
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Go back to a 3.75" stroke, will have to be a pretty stout engine. Hope the 400 block will take it.
Turbo 350, 4500-5000 stall.
Take everything out of the car you can live without. Caltracs might get you there.
Turbo 350, 4500-5000 stall.
Take everything out of the car you can live without. Caltracs might get you there.
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Then it really is possible to beat onna these cars on the street!
And still do it on a budget. No nothing except a drive shaft loop or two... (Front and rear)..
325" with 25 to 30 pounds of blow and go! 4-speed, the right reg's, and rear tires too!
Slappers on it so she never, "hunkers down", but rather just lift's up front and goes outta the hole.
I gotta have a good clutch here though because my 406 and great big L-60's and 3.31's got my 350SS's stock 11" clutch.
pdq67
And still do it on a budget. No nothing except a drive shaft loop or two... (Front and rear)..
325" with 25 to 30 pounds of blow and go! 4-speed, the right reg's, and rear tires too!
Slappers on it so she never, "hunkers down", but rather just lift's up front and goes outta the hole.
I gotta have a good clutch here though because my 406 and great big L-60's and 3.31's got my 350SS's stock 11" clutch.
pdq67
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I assume the Demon is fully street legal and meets new vehicle emissions and safety standards?....And your 67 Camaro needs to meet no standards? Yes, something with a supercharger and a capable tranny and rear axle which might not be a Muncie 4 speed and 12 bolt rear....800 HP street cars are not to be taken lightly..pdq67 wrote:Then it really is possible to beat onna these cars on the street!
And still do it on a budget. No nothing except a drive shaft loop or two... (Front and rear)..
325" with 25 to 30 pounds of blow and go! 4-speed, the right reg's, and rear tires too!
Slappers on it so she never, "hunkers down", but rather just lift's up front and goes outta the hole.
I gotta have a good clutch here though because my 406 and great big L-60's and 3.31's got my 350SS's stock 11" clutch.
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I think it'd be a lot easier to beat one on the track then on the street. I assume that it has traction control which you won't likely have.
On the track it'd be pretty straight forward. 700hp and a chassis/tire combo that can put it to the ground efficiently.
Chris.
On the track it'd be pretty straight forward. 700hp and a chassis/tire combo that can put it to the ground efficiently.
Chris.
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What he said. Also, to run 9s reliably ain't gonna be no budget deal, especially with a stick. A stock 50 yr old Muncie won't cut it. Does your camaro need to maintain the manners and drivability of a demon, or is it "anything goes"? That makes a big difference in how you'd get there. Off the cuff, I am thinking EFI, turbo LS engine is gonna be your best bet on a power-per-dollar basis while still being something you can drive anywhere.ChrisL66 wrote:I think it'd be a lot easier to beat one on the track then on the street. I assume that it has traction control which you won't likely have.
On the track it'd be pretty straight forward. 700hp and a chassis/tire combo that can put it to the ground efficiently.
Chris.
If it was easy and cheap, everyone would have a 9-second 67 Camaro street car.
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This Dodge Challenger SRT Demon is crazy $#!% indeed. Great relief to my teenager years when I wonder if the future muscle cars would be all Mustang II-alikes.
6.2 V8, 2.7L supercharger, 808hp/717lb-ft (91-octane) & 840hp/770lb-ft (100-octane), ZF 8-spd automatic (4.71:1 1st gear), 3.09 axle, slack-less driveline TransBrake (stall speed of 2,350 rpm (computer limited)), refrigerant chilled aftercooler, ...
Anyone knows how what gears are used in the 1/4 mile?
6.2 V8, 2.7L supercharger, 808hp/717lb-ft (91-octane) & 840hp/770lb-ft (100-octane), ZF 8-spd automatic (4.71:1 1st gear), 3.09 axle, slack-less driveline TransBrake (stall speed of 2,350 rpm (computer limited)), refrigerant chilled aftercooler, ...
Anyone knows how what gears are used in the 1/4 mile?
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Re: 2018 Demon article in HR mag.
Well with these specs:Please if you guys in the know would list everything that I would need to do to make my '67 Camaro able to spank onna these new cars??
I'd go blower?6.2 V8, 2.7L supercharger, 808hp/717lb-ft (91-octane) & 840hp/770lb-ft (100-octane), ZF 8-spd automatic (4.71:1 1st gear), 3.09 axle, slack-less driveline TransBrake (stall speed of 2,350 rpm (computer limited)), refrigerant chilled aftercooler, ...
Doubt the Demon price is a budget price?And still do it on a budget.
(how much for them $80,000 or more? at least not my budget)
With a blower, decent block build should get 700-800 HP easy I'd think?
Turbo could get 1000-1200 HP?
All for less than the Demon price?
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I'll bite! Dart 10.2 block wit 4.600 bore,clearanced for a Scat 4.7500 crank, Scat 6.700 rods with ARP 2000 bolts. Wiseco ,Race tech,or JE, pistons, AFR heads 377 CNC ,Victor 2 Intake,,1450 Dominator, Jones or whomever you like for a cam in the 270's at .050 use dished pistons for a little over 10 to 1 compression and you should have over 900HP on pump gas never having to take it over 6000 rpm and you can run 3.36 gears while using a Glide, TH 350-400 trans. The Muncie will break the first time you grab a gear with that much torque.