289/302 Intake
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Re: 289/302 Intake
I have built a fair amount of 306 fords. For anything spinning up to 7000 rpm a well designed dual plane is tough to beat. The short stroke and small cubes really benefit from the extra torque of the dual plane and still has plenty of airflow to pull good numbers up to 7000 rpm. I would only use a single plane on a very radical high rpm 306.
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Re: 289/302 Intake
Old Weiand Accelerator is pretty much like the old Torker 289, except the carb isn't twisted.427dart wrote:Weiand Accelerator worked well for my 302!
Some don't like the original Torker 289... but the Torker II was BY FAR the worst between the two! I tried one once, it was completely flat, and when I took it off, I couldn't even bring myself to sell it, as it was such a turd! Even had a hard time GIVING it away! LOL!
Mild/Moderate ported Torker worked great on my old 306 with majorly ported 289 heads back in the day. It DOES help to use about as much carb spacer as you can fit under the hood of either intake, as the plenum volume is indeed very small.
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Re: 289/302 Intake
i bought a new torker from the local speed shop in about 1975 for my 390 rebel convert.had a cam and headers from jc whitney .ran pretty good but was cold blooded.also a dual point mallory.i miss that speed shop.
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but joe, look how cute it isbigjoe1 wrote:When I was at Edelbrock, that Torker was four or five HP better than a stock cast iron 4 barrel manifold up at the HP peak
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Back int the late 60s read about the the original torker for the fords that the carb was twisted to help end the stagger jetting needed. Later I learned stagger jetting had more to do with coolant flow at the rear of the heads. Have used Torker IIs on many engines some even ported often with fairly mild cams all aimed more at improving power based on air flow than some wild cam. Many of these wer set ups for boats were too much of a cam would cause water reversion from the exhaust into the cylinders
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Again...pdq67 wrote:How would an old factory Ford high-rise dual plane part number M-9424-A321 work here?
Probably have to match intake runners and head runners is all.
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A picture of it is in the old HR mag., "Ford High Performance - Volume 1, Number 4", book dated 1984 on page 106 in the off color pages tech and parts section.
From the picture and the totally unmarked one that I sold to my Nephew years ago, it looks to be about on par with the old Z-28/Holley 300-36 true high-rise intake and they are real winners by me!
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I would love to hear the back story about how Edelbrock managed to screw up the design on the torker / torker II manifolds for just about every engine family. You'd think they wouldn't have brought these turds to market if they knew that they just didn't work.
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They didn't screw all of them up the Torker 2 for the Ford 460 is quite good for a low rise single plane intake.novadude wrote:I would love to hear the back story about how Edelbrock managed to screw up the design on the torker / torker II manifolds for just about every engine family. You'd think they wouldn't have brought these turds to market if they knew that they just didn't work.
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It looks like the old "Cobra" branded SBF intake..pdq67 wrote:Again...pdq67 wrote:How would an old factory Ford high-rise dual plane part number M-9424-A321 work here?
Probably have to match intake runners and head runners is all.
pdq67
A picture of it is in the old HR mag., "Ford High Performance - Volume 1, Number 4", book dated 1984 on page 106 in the off color pages tech and parts section.
From the picture and the totally unmarked one that I sold to my Nephew years ago, it looks to be about on par with the old Z-28/Holley 300-36 true high-rise intake and they are real winners by me!
pdq67
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It's been forty years, but IIRC, the Edelbrock F4B, the Ford Hi-Performance and the Cobra were all the same intake; just different lettering.pdq67 wrote:pdq67 wrote:pdq67 wrote:It looks like the old "Cobra" branded SBF intake..pdq67
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Re: 289/302 Intake
The Torker came before the Streetmaster. Strangely back then , the OFFY Port -o - Sonic spanked them all until the Vic Jr and Parker.
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@pdq67:
A-321 is what I've been using on my 289 for 20 years. Good throttle response and steady power up to 6000, with XE 262. Problem is I've never tried anything else! But I called up Edelbrock and Ford Racing some years ago and they said it flows somewhere in between a Performer and a Performer RPM. Regarding the state of tune of my engine (see my post in the 165 AFR evaluation topic) they advised me not to spend any money on a RPM. Could be a different story with the AFR 165 I am planning to get...
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A-321 is what I've been using on my 289 for 20 years. Good throttle response and steady power up to 6000, with XE 262. Problem is I've never tried anything else! But I called up Edelbrock and Ford Racing some years ago and they said it flows somewhere in between a Performer and a Performer RPM. Regarding the state of tune of my engine (see my post in the 165 AFR evaluation topic) they advised me not to spend any money on a RPM. Could be a different story with the AFR 165 I am planning to get...
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Like this one..pdq67 wrote:Again...pdq67 wrote:How would an old factory Ford high-rise dual plane part number M-9424-A321 work here?
Probably have to match intake runners and head runners is all.
pdq67
A picture of it is in the old HR mag., "Ford High Performance - Volume 1, Number 4", book dated 1984 on page 106 in the off color pages tech and parts section.
From the picture and the totally unmarked one that I sold to my Nephew years ago, it looks to be about on par with the old Z-28/Holley 300-36 true high-rise intake and they are real winners by me!
pdq67
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