Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by randy331 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:16 pm

CGT wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:58 am
I'm mostly interested to score it against our "Winning" EMC engine from this year. Legal in every way minus the hyd roller and '2 Bolt Pattern Heads :x " . It'll be fun to see how it stacks up being very similar cubes etc to see how much those 2 "illegalities" may have been worth. :?
Winning EMC engine had average TQ of 485 LBs ( or 1.37 AV. Pounds/cube ) and average HP of 475 ( 1.345 AV. HP/cube ) on the best scoring pull at EMC.

SN will need 490 AV. TQ and 480 AV. HP to score the same as EMC engine.
That means it will need to average the same TQ as it made peak on the dyno last time. Sounds easy. :D
The AV. HP will likely come closer to EMC, but how much will be above EMC scoring RPM will be the question.
But, TQ kinda rules the EMC.
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:( What a bizzare hobby to have #-o
To say the least !! :) :)

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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by n2xlr8n » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:26 pm

Vee-Dizzie wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:48 am
Sounds very AMATEURESQUE yet interesting. I'd be more than happy to look over your results for you. We could share information and data and combine what we know from similar projects. Send me what you have so far by PM. I may have time to review in the next week or so. I'll try to read through your thread sometime. I'm sure I could point you in the right direction on some things.


:lol: That's good one.

I'm betting they make do all by themselves....for amateurs, of course :lol:
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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by randy331 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:43 pm

n2xlr8n wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:26 pm
I'm betting they make do all by themselves....for amateurs, of course :lol:
It's a hard life being an amateur,...

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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by n2xlr8n » Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:40 am

randy331 wrote:
Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:43 pm
n2xlr8n wrote:
Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:26 pm
I'm betting they make do all by themselves....for amateurs, of course :lol:
It's a hard life being an amateur,...

Randy
I guess he missed the fact that you're a 5-wrench guru :wink:
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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by CGT » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:15 am

December 1st and 2nd is scheduled for dyno flowz. Hoping for a problem free session. Always sucks to spend your time chasing weird issues rather than testing.
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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by RevTheory » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:20 am

Just don't get drunk while you're doing the final assembly and forget to install the needle bearing and thrust washer behind the cam sprocket as it makes a hell of a racket.

At least that's what I've been told... :wink:

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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by randy331 » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:32 am

Dec. 1 and 2 . Guess I better get the vacuum pump off the pullin truck ?? LOL

Lookin forward to it.

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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by CGT » Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:46 am

randy331 wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 9:32 am
Dec. 1 and 2 . Guess I better get the vacuum pump off the pullin truck ?? LOL

Lookin forward to it.

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Well, I'm sure there is enough to test without vacuum. Although that would be cool to test again, seeing how the vacuum results don't always seem to be very consistent from engine to engine. :lol:
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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by sjre » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:49 pm

CGT I think I noticed in earlier pictures that it looked like you did no chamber work ? Also ive seen some cyl head guys put epoxy where your wing is to close down or reshape the side opposite the short turn.How would that affect 50 to 52 seats?

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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by CGT » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:57 pm

sjre wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:49 pm
CGT I think I noticed in earlier pictures that it looked like you did no chamber work ? Also ive seen some cyl head guys put epoxy where your wing is to close down or reshape the side opposite the short turn.How would that affect 50 to 52 seats?
Randy331 did the heads. I'm sure he will respond to your question next time he is logged in.
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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by 408 Nova » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:35 am

Any results yet?

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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by CGT » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:06 am

408 Nova wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:35 am
Any results yet?
Dyno is scheduled for Dec.15 & 16 now, the Dec. 1 and 2 thing got cancelled. Its been hard to get time off work and everything scheduled. Hopefully that doesn't change. Any changes to the Nova over the winter?
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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by CGT » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:22 am

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It is carted and ready to go though.
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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by RevTheory » Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:56 am

Painting those bowties orange is good for another 5 hp :D

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Re: Another "How much will it make?" Project "Special Needs"

Post by CGT » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:15 am

RevTheory wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:56 am
Painting those bowties orange is good for another 5 hp :D
Yeah, your not the first one to mention painting the bowties. :) I'm kinda painted out currently. I've taken a lot of criticism on the "orangeness" of it as well. :lol:
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