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I would like to ask a question or two about these engines:
Was this about the time that some of the engine builders were using furnace-brazed (-in) cylinder walls? Was chrome-moly steel ever used? Who was doing the furnace brazing? C. J. Batten?
I took this photo at the 1978 NHRA Gator Nationals. By the fender's color you may recognize this as Dyno Don's (#1) car.Was this about the time that some of the engine builders were using furnace-brazed (-in) cylinder walls? Was chrome-moly steel ever used? Who was doing the furnace brazing? C. J. Batten?
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According to linked article it was bill coon for Dyno Don and others
http://www.351c.net/wiki/Magazine%20Art ... 201978.pdf
http://www.351c.net/wiki/Magazine%20Art ... 201978.pdf
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Thanks for that article, grandsport.grandsport51 wrote:According to linked article it was bill coon for Dyno Don and others
http://www.351c.net/wiki/Magazine%20Art ... 201978.pdf
Do you or does anyone know if Bill Coon farmed out just the oven work?
I, also, just noticed a positive crankcase ventilation valve on Dyno's engine.
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Not sure who was doing it back then but I will add it's an art. You can jack one up fast if you don't know what your doing!
Just had these done recently.
Just had these done recently.
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DavidM wrote:grandsport51 wrote:According to linked article it was bill coon for Dyno Don and others
http://www.351c.net/wiki/Magazine%20Art ... 201978.pdf
I, also, just noticed a positive crankcase ventilation valve on Dyno's engine.
I think what you are seeing on this engine is a pan evacuation system.
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I do see a hose going to the header. What do you think about the hose that looks like it is plumbed into the bottom of the plenum?engineguyBill wrote:DavidM wrote:grandsport51 wrote:According to linked article it was bill coon for Dyno Don and others
http://www.351c.net/wiki/Magazine%20Art ... 201978.pdf
I, also, just noticed a positive crankcase ventilation valve on Dyno's engine.
I think what you are seeing on this engine is a pan evacuation system.
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Back in the late '70's early '80's, High Speed Salvage in New York did most of the Pro Stock blocks and heads. I've seen the sectioned AMC heads, the Cleveland heads and even one very famous MoPar LA motor that had the lifter valley cut out and replaced so the lifter angle was that of a small block Chevy.cspeier wrote:Not sure who was doing it back then but I will add it's an art.
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crosley engines had a sheet metal copper brazed cylinder block. high speed salvage also welded 2 SBC together to make a V-16
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Might be used to create an artificially strong signal to counteract the venturi issue seen in Jon's sim.DavidM wrote:
I do see a hose going to the header. What do you think about the hose that looks like it is plumbed into the bottom of the plenum?
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Jon's (Kaase)? sim(ulation)? Is this something I can view?Kevin Johnson wrote:Might be used to create an artificially strong signal to counteract the venturi issue seen in Jon's sim.DavidM wrote:
I do see a hose going to the header. What do you think about the hose that looks like it is plumbed into the bottom of the plenum?
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I, also, just noticed a positive crankcase ventilation valve on Dyno's engine.[/quote]
I think what you are seeing on this engine is a pan evacuation system.[/quote]
I do see a hose going to the header. What do you think about the hose that looks like it is plumbed into the bottom of the plenum? [/quote]
at low RPMs there is little vacuum draw from the headers so they use engine vacuum till the engine RPMs are up and the header evac works.
I think what you are seeing on this engine is a pan evacuation system.[/quote]
I do see a hose going to the header. What do you think about the hose that looks like it is plumbed into the bottom of the plenum? [/quote]
at low RPMs there is little vacuum draw from the headers so they use engine vacuum till the engine RPMs are up and the header evac works.
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Man, that is not as Kool.pamotorman wrote: at low RPMs there is little vacuum draw from the headers so they use engine vacuum till the engine RPMs are up and the header evac works.
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Yea, that takes the black magic out of it, but it does make the most sense.Kevin Johnson wrote:Man, that is not as Kool.pamotorman wrote: at low RPMs there is little vacuum draw from the headers so they use engine vacuum till the engine RPMs are up and the header evac works.
Now, back to the question I was originally leading up to.
I had the fortune of standing in on a conversation that Jon Kaase was having. He mentioned that they had recently tried titanium connecting rods for the first time (I think there was an issue, though). He also mentioned chrome-moly-steel sleeves furnace-brazed into the engine. I have always wondered how that could work without having galling issues (the steel rather than iron sleeves)?