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A 421 header. 1.5@8" step to 1.63 for another 8". Primary collectors go to 1.88 and step that one pipe size every 12-14". You will be suprised how long you can run the secondaries. Final collector choke gets larger as secondary gets longer. I am just telling you what can happen if you test secondary lengths, obviously you have to have the funds, ability and time.
A AR "can is a Anti-Reversion device. Google "Feuling AR". Works best in the tailpipe.
Available space is going to be the limiting factor. Small car- mid engine, have to use a muffler.
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Define, "muffler"…
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Noise suppression device.
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There are no noise restrictions, but it doesn't go down well if you make no attempt at reducing noise.
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brad_m wrote:There are no noise restrictions, but it doesn't go down well if you make no attempt at reducing noise.
Well then make a minor attempt and call a AR bulb a supressor...

Motorcycle sized units are available as they are common in single cylinder stuff and larger ones seem to start around 3" in-out, just google Hendren racing engines but units around 2-2.5 tube are hard to find. But the effort is worth it. I would consider using the Hendren units as a "muffler" at the end of you system, just step up tailpipe to 3" near the end? Make room...
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Calvin would these work if you did like this? As in if you wanted the rest of the system larger than the collector.
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Or better yet, a double step anti-reversion. Say 2.5" collectors step to 3" into a y-pipe with 3.5" out into a single 4" exhaust?
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Oh, by the way..................... Look at the collectors here very carefully and then look at the collectors with mufflers on :wink: (look where the taper to the collector ends vs. the length of the collector vs. the position and size of the muffler)
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I'm thinking the AR device would be about where an expansion box would be after the collector
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Mark do you have a pic looking into the end of the muffler?
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77cruiser wrote:Mark do you have a pic looking into the end of the muffler?
No but the collector extends about 1/2 the way in. 3.5" core muffler with 2.75" collector :wink:
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Thanks for all input guys.

I think as far as finding a local AR can, that going to be impossible. I already have to get 1-5/8 and 1-7/8 tube custom bent as I can't find an Australian supplier that stocks preformed bends in those sizes.
And I've only managed to find some sizes with a bend radius of more than 1.5xdiameter. I can get the 1.5" tube for the pipe off the head with a 9.8" bend radius.

I'll look at making my own AR can.
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mod lite / legend dwarf car header...
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these are cool little cars....
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work like this and toys like that makes me wish I lived a lot closer to you. :lol:
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