Freezing cam bearings before installation?

[CNC BLOCKS]

Hello ProPower
Please check you PM as I provided u with the info you asked for. Sorry that I furgot. Damn, is hell gittin old. any question, just give me a call. In fact if you want to see, come on down. Hopefully I will have the new CNC guide n Seat chine going by then.

reed

Can't show any pics HMMM Interesting!!!!

[racear2865]

Hello ProPower
Please check you PM as I provided u with the info you asked for. Sorry that I furgot. Damn, is hell gittin old. any question, just give me a call. In fact if you want to see, come on down. Hopefully I will have the new CNC guide n Seat chine going by then.

reed

Can't show any pics HMMM Interesting!!!!

Carl
You just dont understand. With the NSA looking over my shoulders all, day 24 hrs a day, I could only share my pictures with people classified as "right to Know". So I encrypted all the pictures and sent them to ProPower (yes he is on the right to know list). Oh Carl, by the way, You aint on the right to know list. Hey any bidy else want pictures of my chine.
reed

[CNC BLOCKS]

Hello ProPower
Please check you PM as I provided u with the info you asked for. Sorry that I furgot. Damn, is hell gittin old. any question, just give me a call. In fact if you want to see, come on down. Hopefully I will have the new CNC guide n Seat chine going by then.

reed

Can't show any pics HMMM Interesting!!!!

Carl
You just dont understand. With the NSA looking over my shoulders all, day 24 hrs a day, I could only share my pictures with people classified as "right to Know". So I encrypted all the pictures and sent them to ProPower (yes he is on the right to know list). Oh Carl, by the way, You aint on the right to know list. Hey any bidy else want pictures of my chine.
reed

Sounds like a BS story to me. NO PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!! GOOD EXCUSE THOUGH

[Kevin Johnson]

So, how 'bout those Mets?

[Strange Magic]

Here is a quote from the article:

By doing so, you'll be in a better position to determine which type of cam bearings best meet your performance needs.

That would be a Dura Bond.

[BrazilianZ28Camaro]

Here is a quote from the article:

By doing so, you'll be in a better position to determine which type of cam bearings best meet your performance needs.

That would be a Dura Bond.

LOL

[CNC BLOCKS]

I think Reed made an A$$ out himself again!! He don't have a clue what he is talking about More so when he didn't answer Pro Power questions as he did ask twice What CNC machine ??? Make believe I guess !!!

Gee whiz Carl, is there never any levity in you life?? If I did make an arse of myself, it will not be the 1st nor will it be the last And I humbly apologize to any and all members of this forum. I firmly believe the day would be a loss without some light heartedness, which was my intent. Oh and thank you for reminding me that I owe ProPower a answer on my CNC and I will do that right now>In fact I will show him all 3 of them. He seems to be a nice person to communicate with. Hopefully in the future, he and I and many others can share some info. I look forward to learning any and all info.
reed

Reed

I had a conversation with Dave and the machine you sent a pic of was at the PRI SHOW not at your shop, No wonder you didn't post any pics. I guess any one can do that. No wonder you did not answer his post

The whole story you told was BS

[racear2865]

I think Reed made an A$$ out himself again!! He don't have a clue what he is talking about More so when he didn't answer Pro Power questions as he did ask twice What CNC machine ??? Make believe I guess !!!

Gee whiz Carl, is there never any levity in you life?? If I did make an arse of myself, it will not be the 1st nor will it be the last And I humbly apologize to any and all members of this forum. I firmly believe the day would be a loss without some light heartedness, which was my intent. Oh and thank you for reminding me that I owe ProPower a answer on my CNC and I will do that right now>In fact I will show him all 3 of them. He seems to be a nice person to communicate with. Hopefully in the future, he and I and many others can share some info. I look forward to learning any and all info.
reed

Reed

I had a conversation with Dave and the machine you sent a pic of was at the PRI SHOW not at your shop, No wonder you didn't post any pics. I guess any one can do that. No wonder you did not answer his post

The whole story you told was BS

Carl
Here is the picture on T & S website . Look at the emblem on the right rear panel of the machine. While youre looking at the close up. Read whos name is on the emblem. And then look at the start of a facebook page of mine and look at that same emblem. Also here is the telephone number of Tim/Shanna/ and Leith (940-668-1002)and see if I loaned them my machine to use at the show and if you would like, I will remove all the guards again so you can see that emblem and see whos name is on the only emblem/ logo like that. Also, lets me and you make a friendly bet, lets say $10,000 American or make it easy on yourself and make it $20,000, that that same exact machine is at my shop and that machine on their website is mine and the one at the show was loaned to them by me for the PRI show. Also look at the color. Their color is blue, mine is grey(that machine)
Any more question.

Make that check out to
Reed grant owner of that machine---Hey could u get the check in the mail tommorrow.
Pictures below sir

http://www.tnsmachines.com/BlueprintSystem.aspx

https://www.facebook.com/grantsracingan ... tos_stream
Facebook page Grant's Racing & Custom Auto

If any one has a problem geting these photos, let me know
I will stay on line right now to answer any of your question, any one

[BrazilianZ28Camaro]

[racear2865]

Carl

I am patiently waiting on that check please. No apology necessary when u mail the check
reed

[Barry_R]

Good grief.
Durabond makes about 90% of the cam bearings out there no matter who's name is on the package. I thought they made all of them since F-M closed their St. Johns, MI plant, but was corrected by folks who pointed out that ACL (Australia) made their own. But if you are purchasing Clevite, F-M, or Durabod bearings you are getting the same parts.

And we install our cam bearings dry at room temperature with really minimal drama - using a custom mandrel that my machinist made up. Iron blacks have been trouble free doing this. Like others, we use some glue and small retainers on aluminum blocks 'cuz I've had a couple get up and walk out on their own for no damned good reason.

[smeg]

Been in this industry my whole life, have worked in a production shop for over 15 years and at the end we were doing 100 engines a day. All cam bearings were installed dry and I don't recall any spinning and cam bearing issues were minimal. I have had my own race engine business now for 29 years, on iron blocks the cam bearings are always installed dry and I have never had a problem. I guess some people are always trying ways of doing things better, but like someone has already said, if it aint broke don't fix it. I have more important things on my plate!

[dave brode]

Barry said:

But if you are purchasing Clevite, F-M, or Durabod bearings you are getting the same parts.

Do you know who makes King's?

TIA
Dave

[Cubic_Cleveland]

Can I ask people's reasoning behind installing cam bearings dry? I install my cam bearings with lube on both the bearing and housing bore and have never had a problem. My reason for doing this is I believe lubing both parts will help the bearing knock in with less force/friction, and to help prevent the bearing/housing bore from galling or peeling some of the back of the bearing off. Same thing if I have to drive/press a sleeve, guide, valve seat etc. I also lube one piece rear mains (except when I have the rear cap off, eg late model Windsor), cam, front crank seals and the like whilst installing them.

Now, when I shrink fit something with liquid nitrogen sure it's dry. But that's because the part being inserted will have clearance whilst it's cold and will slip in under gravity. Also I fit conventional big end and main bearings dry (as would most people I presume) but I think we can all agree that is a completely different application given the bearing is in two halves and installs in a different manor.

[CNC BLOCKS]

Barry said:

But if you are purchasing Clevite, F-M, or Durabod bearings you are getting the same parts.

Do you know who makes King's?

TIA
Dave

I think they are Durabond.