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sbc cracked block

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:15 pm
by Speed7
Have a 350 four bolt main block with a hairline crack about 3 inches long down number 2 cylinder on the freeze plug side. Have any of you had luck sleeving one and it hold up in a drag racing engine? Mild build 11 to 1 compression 6800 rpm engine.
Thanks

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:39 pm
by BrazilianZ28Camaro
Doing it the right way, the sleeve wouldn't be a problem.

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:38 pm
by Speed7
My concern is it is a crack, not a gouge. What would keep the crack from spreading on down the block to the oil pan rail and up to the top of the cylinder?
Thanks

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:42 pm
by Speedbump
I would make sure the crack doesn't extend up into the deck and stops before it gets to the bottom of the cylinder. Then, as noted, a properly installed sleeve will work OK. A good guy might also be able to save the deck by trimming the sleeve right down to it and save the cost of decking again. Those blocks are still pretty available so be careful not to get too much money tied up in a sleeved block.

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:03 pm
by BrazilianZ28Camaro
Speed7 wrote: What would keep the crack from spreading on down the block to the oil pan rail and up to the top of the cylinder?
Thanks
The best way I know to stop a crack is drill small holes on its ends.

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:04 pm
by pdq67
Might consider taking a Dremal or whatever with a short bit in it and putting an 1/8" hole at each end of the crack so that it doesn't continue to crack longer later.

pdq67

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:15 pm
by robert1
It's not a problem.

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:18 am
by dontpanic
I had one sleeved and with in a few races the water started showing up in the oil again, when I pulled it down the sleve cracked in the same place again. maybe bad luck?

this was a +.060 350 block 450 hp dirt track

Good Luck

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:44 am
by CNC BLOCKS
dontpanic wrote:I had one sleeved and with in a few races the water started showing up in the oil again, when I pulled it down the sleve cracked in the same place again. maybe bad luck?

this was a +.060 350 block 450 hp dirt track

Good Luck
I have seen that before on performance builds.

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:20 pm
by leahymtsps
this was a +.060 350 block 450 hp dirt track


How thick was the installed sleeve ? Boring some of them .060 will make them pretty thin.

Tom

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:47 pm
by PackardV8
drag racing engine? Mild build 11 to 1 compression 6800 rpm engine.
FWIW, you'll get other opinions, but the four-bolt blocks are still available for cheap. If I were building to my own preferences on most later V8s, less bore is more. The more overbore, the more problems.

Having said that, on your relatively mild build, if everything else is right, a sleeve won't be a problem. One of the better running limited budget builds out of here had three sleeves in it. I tried to talk him out of it, but somehow it ran strong and lived long.

jack vines

Re: sbc cracked block

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:55 pm
by machine shop tom
A 1/8" wall sleeve properly installed with a step at the bottom will work fine. The worst thing will be that the adjacent cylinder will be pushed out-of-round and will need to be honed round again. That will open up the clearance in that cylinder.

tom