LS heads on SBF

[91stang]

I'm only 28 and want to do something that even if it has been done it hasn't been over done. I can't afford to go any faster with the Windsor stuff I have, so why not build something unique? Even if it isn't a world beater it will be cool and might be something that will inspire more of my generation to think outside the magazine build.

[91stang]

You call it a Chord or a Fevy...

I see what your saying, except the LS has more in common with a sbf then a sbc. Maybe instead of LSX, LSW?

[91stang]

So looks like we are going with a 3.850 crank 6.200 rod and an Auto Tec piston with a 1.340 compression height. With my 1969 block with a 9.480 deck height that should leave the piston .015 in the hole. And leave us with around 11:1 compress with a 60cc head.

[needforspeed66gt]

So I guess the most important question at this point is whether to use a GM or a Ford head gasket right?

[91stang]

So I guess the most important question at this point is whether to use a GM or a Ford head gasket right?

Haven't determined that yet. My thinking as of now is to use a Ford gasket and make the water in the heads meet the water in the block. Am I way off? Been a long weekend! LOL

[peejay]

The Chevy uses Cleveland style water jacketing. The coolant comes back out through the deck and goes into the water pump/thermostat assembly.

I guess that is more similar to the LT1 than the Cleveland, but the LT1 gets honorary Ford status for putting the distributor on the front instead of up against the firewall.

Either way, it may be a golden opportunity to play with where the water comes out of the heads. Small ports on the rear face, large ones on the front, all going to a remote thermostat?

[revolutionary]

Can't wait to see how this turns out. I eyballed doing that about 6 years ago. Mapped out the headbolt and water passage situation and it looked easy.

[91stang]

The Chevy uses Cleveland style water jacketing. The coolant comes back out through the deck and goes into the water pump/thermostat assembly.

I guess that is more similar to the LT1 than the Cleveland, but the LT1 gets honorary Ford status for putting the distributor on the front instead of up against the firewall.

Either way, it may be a golden opportunity to play with where the water comes out of the heads. Small ports on the rear face, large ones on the front, all going to a remote thermostat?

I want the water coming into the heads, reverse cooling. It will have a remote water pump. The only bridge not to be crossed is the head gasket selection, that will be resolved this week after work some time. I have clevand, windsor, and several LS heads at my disposal, I'll get it figured out soon.

[91stang]

Can't wait to see how this turns out. I eyballed doing that about 6 years ago. Mapped out the headbolt and water passage situation and it looked easy.

I wonder if that's why it was never done? It just looked too easy, no challenge.

[91stang]

Mocking up heads on block today to figure out my head gasket issue. Wish me luck.

[Unkl Ian]

I guess that is more similar to the LT1 than the Cleveland, but the LT1
gets honorary Ford status for putting the distributor on the front instead of up against the firewall.

Ford was smart enough to abandon distributors, for coil packs;
instead, GM came up with their stupid idea of hiding the distributor behind the water pump.


Just try changing the cap.

[91stang]

It looks like it will either be a Boss 302 or a copper gasket that we will be able to put holes where we want/need them. We are starting to come up with a plan for making the GMPP intake work.

[3pedals]

COOL build, I LOVE the fact that you are "building" this thing, not just slapping catalogue parts together. Thumbs up!

[af2]

COOL build, I LOVE the fact that you are "building" this thing, not just slapping catalogue parts together. Thumbs up!

X2

[autodoctor911]

cool Idea. I will be following this thread closely to see what works. I am looking at options for running a Ford small block in road racing, without spending a fortune on a yates head set up. this LS idea has me listening. I haven't seen any sbf heads that can match the flow of LS heads with a good port and smallish(<2.05i/<1.6e) valves, on a smallish(<4.06) bore.

Maybe the end result will be an inspiration for others, and a major head manufacturer may even start offering LS heads ready to bolt on a Ford engine, and manifolds, etc. it could be the next generation's CLEVOR. what'll it be called though?

WINDLSOR? too hard to pronounce

WiLSor?