What is the Max HP on a sealed GM 604

lowriderglen · Post by **lowriderglen** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:32 pm

There is a new forged piston for the 604 that will be available from Mahle at the end of this month (Feb). It will not be advertised to the general public and includes a thin ring pack and radial gas porting. It will be lighter and look exactly the same on the top as oem if checked with a bore scope.......thought you might want to know.....

levisnteeshirt · Post by **levisnteeshirt** » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:03 pm

it will be balanced different ,, will stand out if they pull the pan ,, hastings sells a set of rings for them for 60 bucks , instead of the factory ones ,,, they check all of that ,,, if ya get caught cheating ,,, its not pretty ,,,

Post by **CamKing** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 9:35 am

Cheating is bad.

Mike Laws · Post by **Mike Laws** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:31 am

Looks like a 'crate engine shootout' might be interesting.

engine101 · Post by **engine101** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:52 am

CamKing wrote:Cheating is bad.

Cam King that is Hilarious!!!

Crate Motors= Cheating!! LOL!

Post by **CamKing** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:35 pm

engine101 wrote:
CamKing wrote:Cheating is bad.
Cam King that is Hilarious!!!
Crate Motors= Cheating!! LOL!

No way.
Crate motors = an inexpensive, level playing field.

engine101 · Post by **engine101** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:19 pm

CamKing wrote:
engine101 wrote:
CamKing wrote:Cheating is bad.
Cam King that is Hilarious!!!
Crate Motors= Cheating!! LOL!
No way.
Crate motors = an inexpensive, level playing field.

Ha Ha! That is the laugh of the day!

Post by **CamKing** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:22 pm

For you Orwell fans:
"Crate motors are all equal.
Some are just more equal then others."

engine101 · Post by **engine101** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:32 pm

CamKing wrote:For you Orwell fans:
"Crate motors are all equal.
Some are just more equal then others."

That is so True!

DaveMcLain · Post by **DaveMcLain** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:01 pm

Hey I see they have the "factory" sealed bolts so the engines must be untouched right? Sure!

Post by **CamKing** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:12 pm

DaveMcLain wrote:Hey I see they have the "factory" sealed bolts

How many sets would you like to buy?

DaveMcLain · Post by **DaveMcLain** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:15 pm

I know I'm going to need at least one set because right now I'm repairing a 604 for a customer. Last year I worked on a couple of those crate engines that had been damaged from over heating or too much hard running.

levisnteeshirt · Post by **levisnteeshirt** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:27 pm

you can get the seal bolts on ebay and racing junk ,,lol,,, its really a joke ,, i love to be in the pits and hear one come rumpling through ,,, yeah , right ,, that one is legal ,,,,,

you can hear if anything has been done to em ,,, stands out like a sore thumb beside a stock one ,,, i was doing the tech work at a local track ,, they started saying what a great thing this crate engine thing is ,,, how they're all legal , can't mess with 'em ,,, i told them you can get seal bolts on ebay ,,, they're jaw dropped ,,, and ,, it ain't impossible to get them off and put them back on ,,, good idea ,, bad in practice ,, for every good thing ,, somebody will figure it out ,,, its really a built in defense ,,, because who at most local tracks is gonna put up 5000 to protest an engine ?? i've saw it one time ,,,, so the seal bolts keep the cheater in it as much as the legal guy

engine101 · Post by **engine101** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:38 pm

levisnteeshirt wrote:you can get the seal bolts on ebay and racing junk ,,lol,,, its really a joke ,, i love to be in the pits and hear one come rumpling through ,,, yeah , right ,, that one is legal ,,,,,

you can hear if anything has been done to em ,,, stands out like a sore thumb beside a stock one ,,, i was doing the tech work at a local track ,, they started saying what a great thing this crate engine thing is ,,, how they're all legal , can't mess with 'em ,,, i told them you can get seal bolts on ebay ,,, they're jaw dropped ,,, and ,, it ain't impossible to get them off and put them back on ,,, good idea ,, bad in practice ,, for every good thing ,, somebody will figure it out ,,, its really a built in defense ,,, because who at most local tracks is gonna put up 5000 to protest an engine ?? i've saw it one time ,,,, so the seal bolts keep the cheater in it as much as the legal guy

x 10! Most of the crates up here are 383 CI! LOL!

JDR Performance · Post by **JDR Performance** » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:47 pm

CamKing wrote:For you Orwell fans:
"Crate motors are all equal.
Some are just more equal then others."

Four legs is good, two legs is better. Excellent book.

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