That is completely true. OEM use a certification fuel in order to qualify a new engine. The certification fuel bears very little resemblence to actual pump fuels available to the public. In fact, based on geography and season, the pump fuel changes characteristics considerably. For detailed information see ASTM D-4814.maxc wrote:A very reliable source told me car company's use different fuel than at the pump for emission testing.David Redszus wrote:The primary objective a real refinery is to produce the fuel that is demanded by OEMs attempting to meet current emission and MPG requirements.rookie wrote:It's ashamed fuel company's and the EPA crooks don't join forces and produce the best fuel for power and economy.
The primary objective of a race fuel marketer is to produce whatever they can sell to a very uninformed racing customer.
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At a Mega-meet a few years back I ran into a guy who is a chemist whose company was working on a chemical test for, among other properties, octane. I believe the EPA or ?? federal agency was hiring them to develop this test.maxc wrote:A very reliable source told me car company's use different fuel than at the pump for emission testing.David Redszus wrote:The primary objective a real refinery is to produce the fuel that is demanded by OEMs attempting to meet current emission and MPG requirements.rookie wrote:It's ashamed fuel company's and the EPA crooks don't join forces and produce the best fuel for power and economy.
The primary objective of a race fuel marketer is to produce whatever they can sell to a very uninformed racing customer.
He said that a third of "high octane" pumps out there were dispensing lower-than-rated octane fuels. This is why I hate high powered pump gas engines. Consistency is a real problem with pump gas IMO.
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Did he happen to mention which pumps those were?
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he worked out of Virginia, right near D.C.swatson454 wrote:Did he happen to mention which pumps those were?
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These Turbo guys are claiming 100 horse gains?????
http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/efi-t ... 100hp-gain!/
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Q 16 is well worth the investment. 637 cu inch DRCE2 , 2420 lb door car, 7.13 @ 196 with C25. Changed to Q 16, jetted up, air was 300 ft worse, 7.05 @ 198. Jetted up again in 400 ft worse air, 6.96 @ 198 and change. I would say it's a little better than 20 hp. At least with our stuff. Yes the EGT's went up. Staying around 1280. All runs were done the same day. Same launch, Same tire pressure, Wheelie bar,etc.... .007 pin size total increase. Have not played with timing yet or air bleeds so I would bet there is more left.
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