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mbrooks wrote:i don't see pricing on their wesites. what are they charging. i might be able to help you out. they make it in oklahoma city and i don't live too far from you. i have gallon quantities or could sell you the smaller 5 oz. bottles. i have used it personally for about 15+ yrs when i read the vizard article and could buy it from the manufacturer and still can but they don't do that anymore for the general public. i think they considered me a distributor when they closed their doors but i never aggresively sought to sell the stuff.

if i was doing the emc thing i would definitely consider breaking in the engine on this stuff, you could even run it on the additive up until the contest and probably see benefits during the dyno testing. i was told for racing you can use up to a certain amount and not see it in the fuel, the guy i talked to mixed race gas and pump gas with the additive and saw benefits, the officials knew he was using something but couldn't see it when they tested the fuel. i put some of the race stuff in my kart fuel one time and the test did show it a little hot though, i think i was using 2 or 3 oz to the gallon.
I believe the costs for the ACES IV fuel treatment catalyst is around $63/quart or $250/gallon and they recommend 1 oz per gallon of fuel. I don't see anywhere on the BND Automotive or the American Clean Energy Systems (ACES) web sites where they offer it in quantities of less than the quart size. I have seen where Oil Extreme has a fuel additive where they offer it in a 5 or 6 oz size as well as a 16 oz size I believe. Not sure how it compares to the ACES IV.
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You can still get the original TK7 here for $150.00 a gallon.
http://www.newsouthdiesel.com/tk7.php
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MadBill wrote:This product appears to be the same material as the Oil Extreme TK7 additive discussed extensively by David Vizard in his MotoTec magazine and at least one of his books: http://www.oilextreme.com/motortec_article.html

Certainly enough data and detail to allay the scepticism of most engine builders..
Just an FYI, Oil Extreme and TK7 or different company's as well as ACES/BND... BND also custom blends oils for your specific need and there is a good oil additive available through ACES for those why are interested.
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Where is the company TK7 located?
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mbrooks wrote:Where is the company TK7 located?
Thailand
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mbrooks wrote:Where is the company TK7 located?
Newton, NC

The product label says made by TK7 company in Oklahoma.

I received mine 4 days after I placed the order.
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mbrooks wrote:Where is the company TK7 located?
Newton, NC

The product label says made by TK7 company in Oklahoma.

I received mine 4 days after I placed the order.
You have a contact number? I was a distributor for quite a while and bought wholesale, didn't purchase for a while and when I did they weren't in OK anymore and I couldn't find them. I'd like to see if I'm still on their list. The markup on that stuff is ridiculous. I looked, I don't think that is their manufacturing plant.
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GARY C wrote:You can still get the original TK7 here for $150.00 a gallon.
http://www.newsouthdiesel.com/tk7.php
Here is who to contact.
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You have a contact number? I was a distributor for quite a while and bought wholesale, didn't purchase for a while and when I did they weren't in OK anymore and I couldn't find them. I'd like to see if I'm still on their list. The markup on that stuff is ridiculous. I looked, I don't think that is their manufacturing plant.
If you were doing wholesale with the original contact, they have split that company, I have been doing business with the partner of the original company for over 8 years and my "wholesale" cost is $250.00+ and seems to go up every time I order, that's why I was happy to find the product under the original name at the cost I was paying in the beginning.
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Wow, I still have a case of the TK7 gas, and a case of the TK7 alky treatments sitting in my shop. Haven't heard from them in a while. Thanks for the link.

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FC-Pilot wrote:Wow, I still have a case of the TK7 gas, and a case of the TK7 alky treatments sitting in my shop. Haven't heard from them in a while. Thanks for the link.

Paul
You may save that alky treatment for when the GOV pushes our fuel past E-15, the gas treatment will support up to E-15.
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GARY C wrote:
You have a contact number? I was a distributor for quite a while and bought wholesale, didn't purchase for a while and when I did they weren't in OK anymore and I couldn't find them. I'd like to see if I'm still on their list. The markup on that stuff is ridiculous. I looked, I don't think that is their manufacturing plant.
If you were doing wholesale with the original contact, they have split that company, I have been doing business with the partner of the original company for over 8 years and my "wholesale" cost is $250.00+ and seems to go up every time I order, that's why I was happy to find the product under the original name at the cost I was paying in the beginning.
I agree on the price going up all the time, when I first bought it it was $40 a gal, the markup is about 100%. I'm not sure who this 'partner' is, when I was doing business with them there was one entity.
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