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Postby 540 RAT » Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:59 pm

Flat tappet guys and others who desire extra zinc/phos anti-wear additives in their motor oil, may want to take a look at this. I just got a Staveley Lab report back on a brand new bottle of Valvoline conventional petroleum (dino) 10W40 4Stroke Motorcycle Oil. Check it out below:

In parts per million (ppm):

Calcium = 1849

Phosphorus = 1075

Zinc = 1154

Moly = 0

TBN = 7.1

For reference:
Calcium : Detergent/dispersant additive
Phosphorus: Anti-wear additive
Zinc : Anti-wear additive
Molybdenum: Anti-wear additive
TBN (Total Base Number): reserve alkalinity, which controls
acid formation as a result of the combustion process


You can get this Valvoline Motorcycle oil , also in 20W50 weight, at Kragen, Autozone and a few other auto parts stores.

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For a comparison that I got from Staveley earlier in the year, take a look at their lab report on Royal Purple's $14.00 per quart, full synthetic, XPR Racing Oil
Calcium = 3039

Phosphorus = 1338

Zinc = 1421

Moly = 204

TBN = 10.9
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Postby ou812 » Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:50 pm

I believe the vv850 oil is even better. But kinda hard to get. It's the "not for street dino oil with lots of scuff additive.
Thanks for the info!!
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Postby brket racer » Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:11 pm

ou812 wrote:I believe the vv850 oil is even better. But kinda hard to get. It's the "not for street dino oil with lots of scuff additive.
Thanks for the info!!
Brian


i'VE BEEN USING THE VV850 IN MY 383 DRAG CAMARO.I buy it from my local Napa Store with no problem.
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Postby Strange Magic » Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:23 pm

If your looking for a very reliable zinc and phos additive that I would recommend the ZDDP by Kirban. It is sold in 4 oz bottles. This is the main company that distributes and wholesales additive to camshaft and valve train companys.

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Valvoline VR1

Postby veno » Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:00 am

These are Test results I did in feb 28 2008 on VR1 30 weight and VR1 20W50

I also did testing on the same sample bottles to a different LAB... they confirmed the findings of the first lab... the LABS were Polaris in Houston and Analysts, Inc also Houston........Analysts, Inc Created oil testing..

20W50 VR1

boron............17
sodium..........75
potassium....<10
Zinc.......... 1448
Phosphorus..1415
Calcium.......2361

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30Wt. VR1

boron............17
sodium..........3
potassium....<10
Zinc.......... 1429
Phosphorus..1368
Calcium.......2201


If you want the highest Zinc and phosphorous content in a shelf oil look no further then Pennzoil GT 25W50 this oil has 1800ppm phosphorours and 2000 zinc....

Good luck

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Postby ClassKing » Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:39 am

So it appears Valvoline is a-ok for flat tappets eh?
Good to see that.
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Postby needforspeed66gt » Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:03 am

Strange Magic wrote:If your looking for a very reliable zinc and phos additive that I would recommend the ZDDP by Kirban. It is sold in 4 oz bottles. This is the main company that distributes and wholesales additive to camshaft and valve train companys.

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Yep - I've got boxes of that stuff at the shop.
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Re: Valvoline VR1

Postby mmmitch588 » Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:44 am

veno wrote:If you want eh highest Zinc and phosphorous content in a shelf oil look no further then Pennzoil GT 25W50 this oil has 1800ppm phosphorours and 2000 zinc....

Good luck

Veno

Does this mean that the Penzoil is a user friendly oil for flat tappet cams?
Seems to me that it has one of the highest %age of zinc & phosphorous of all the oils. Yes / No ?
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Postby black_z » Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:54 am

Shame it's so thick.
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Re: Valvoline VR1

Postby veno » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:08 am

mmmitch588 wrote:
veno wrote:If you want eh highest Zinc and phosphorous content in a shelf oil look no further then Pennzoil GT 25W50 this oil has 1800ppm phosphorours and 2000 zinc....

Good luck

Veno

Does this mean that the Penzoil is a user friendly oil for flat tappet cams?
Seems to me that it has one of the highest %age of zinc & phosphorous of all the oils. Yes / No ?



YES the GT 25W50 has the highest of any shelf oil... do not confuse it with 20W50... Only the Pennzoil GT oil has that zinc content... and its only available in 3 weights, 25W50, straight 50 and 60,
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Postby ou812 » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:04 pm

black_z wrote:Shame it's so thick.


Exactly why I use the vv850 valvoline...10w30!!
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Postby veno » Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:23 pm

ou812 wrote:
black_z wrote:Shame it's so thick.


Exactly why I use the vv850 valvoline...10w30!!
Brian


The VR1 has higher levels than the VV850 and is availale in straight 30,40,50,and 60 along with 10W30, and 10W40..

so why not use a fully formulated automotive oil Like VR1 verses a motorcycle oil made for wet clutch performance..
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Postby mmmitch588 » Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:03 pm

Just wondering if any one has heard of ULX 110 oil & thoughts please, green in colour.
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Postby spyder » Sat Jul 26, 2008 8:36 pm

For all you guys that run Valvoline, when I worked at NAPA it was said that NAPA oil is Valvoline in a NAPA bottle. I know they are both made by the Ashland company but I can't say it they are the same exact oil. NAPA oil was always cheaper then Valvoline though so if they are the same you can save some money. Ofcourse Valvoline at Wal-Mart is probably cheaper than NAPA oil at NAPA.
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Postby ou812 » Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:59 pm

veno wrote:
ou812 wrote:
black_z wrote:Shame it's so thick.


Exactly why I use the vv850 valvoline...10w30!!
Brian


The VR1 has higher levels than the VV850 and is availale in straight 30,40,50,and 60 along with 10W30, and 10W40..

so why not use a fully formulated automotive oil Like VR1 verses a motorcycle oil made for wet clutch performance..


Are you implying that the vv850 is for motorcycle clutches????
You need to go to valvoline's website and check it out first...according to valvoline, this oil is quite a bit better than the VR1 for flattappet cams!
Email them....
Brian
http://www.valvoline.com/pages/products ... product=94
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